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Vacation Wars


Every year my husband and I argue about where to go on vacation. We’ve been married thirty-six years so that means we have had thirty-six Vacation Wars.

MY HUSBAND DOES NOT LIKE TO TRAVEL.

I DO.

My husband, Cliff, likes to be home more than he likes to be away. I, on the other hand, prefer to leave home the minute our holidays begin and return in the wee hours of the morning just before going back to work. When vacation time rolls around, we both pull out our lists. We don’t actually write them out, for after this many years, they are well-rehearsed. My list varies from year to year, but Cliff’s never does.

Marilyn & Cliff's Lists

Hands and Globe pixabay Geralt

It is not enough that I have set foot on four continents,

stood by the shores of three oceans,

and travelled to most of Canada and the United States.

I have enjoyed seeing the tulips in Holland, the Viking settlement in L’Anse aux Meadows NL, and the sand dunes on the Oregon coast, but I have not yet experienced Paris.

I have marvelled at the crashing waves in Cape Spear, NL  and gazed at the Alps and London Bridge in England, but I have never driven across the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, CA.

I have safaried in the Serengeti, resorted in Mombasa, and shopped in the Jerusalem Old City Market, but I have not been to Alaska.

Places Not Seen pixabay Eiffel Tower Kaz; Golden Gate Bridge CC0 Public Domain; Alaska Wolf PublicDomainPictures

I want to see more!

Our summer vacation war begins sometime in April or May.

After this many years, we have an unwritten script, and every year we faithfully repeat it.

WIFE: Where are we going to go on vacation this year?

HUSBAND: I don’t want to be gone for too long.

WIFE: We need to get away and have a break.

HUSBAND: At the end of my holidays, I don’t want to look back and see that I was hardly home.

WIFE: So, where would you like to go?

HUSBAND: We could take some short trips around here, and it would be  cheap. We could spend the last half of the vacation at home.

WIFE: What are you going to do at home?

HUSBAND: I would like to organize my tools, and then sit in my chair and read or watch TV.  I love being in my house. It is so quiet.

WIFE: QUIET? The house is way too noisy!

HUSBAND: NOISY? How can it be noisy?

WIFE: The house is always talking to me:  the paperwork screams to be filed, the bed clamours to be made, the weeds laugh behind my back, and the plants yell to be watered. I can’t relax here!

And so the tense negotiations begin.

Fortunately, my husband loves to visit our families who live on opposite sides of the continent.  When our three children were younger, driving was the only financially feasible way to visit.  With the significant road time, I always hoped for potential stops along the way.  This was a problem.

Cars in a row pixabay CopyrightFreePictures

Cliff sits behind the steering wheel. His mantra is drive, drive, drive. His only focus is the final destination. Food and bathroom breaks are annoying interruptions that deter him from his mission of reaching his goal as quickly as possible. His warrior instincts kick in and he aims to conquer the road by passing as many vehicles as possible. I am not sure what he hopes to win, but I have seen the defeated look on his face when he watches all of the vehicles zoom by that he just passed. All stops to view waterfalls or scenic viewpoints only mean he has to pass the same cars again. Enjoying the journey between points A and B is not in his brain vocabulary.

 

My role is the navigator. I am not sure why my husband still trusts me, but he follows my directions. Over time, I have discovered that my husband has a vulnerable spot in his crusty no-breaks stance: if I can somehow get him to stop, he enjoys almost any place in the world.

I have learned a few ‘tricks’ to use this chink in his armour to my advantage.

 


TEN STRATEGIES FOR VACATION BLISS

 

1. Plan bathroom breaks for stops at Visitor Centres

Welcome Center pixabay SooZ8

Timing is important: bladder urgency is best when entering a new country, state, or province as visitor centres are usually close to the borders. If possible, also bring out snacks and suggest getting fuel.  This will extend the visit so the children have time to browse inside the Tourism Center. Return to the vehicle armed with promotional literature describing the tantalizing local attractions down the road.

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2. Get the children on side by creating interest in the above brochures

Start reading the tourism promo material out loud. The children will hopefully join in and want to visit the sites in the brochures. If the children are enthusiastic, Dad will probably agree to go to at least one.

  • Terry Fox Statue Thunder Bay flickr Brett Vachon
    Thunder Bay ON

This subtle strategy led to visits to the Terry Fox Monument in Thunder Bay ON, the Reversing Falls in St. John NB, the Statue of Liberty on our only visit to New York NY, a ride on Maid of the Mist at the Niagara Falls ON, and the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto ON. (My son, Stephen, found a brochure for the Toronto museum in a tiny Information Kiosk in rural Saskatchewan and kept it safe all the way to Newfoundland and Labrador and then back to Toronto.  He insisted that we go to this museum, and none of us were disappointed.)

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3. Get lost with purpose.

Lose the map-reading skills and give directions for an unplanned but desired location. As we were passing by Quebec City QC, my husband was adamant that we would not go into the city, despite my loving pleadings. Finally, I meekly said, “Well, we have to stop for lunch.” As the designated map-reader, I directed him across the bridge and then suddenly had trouble understanding the map. My husband trustingly followed my prompts for a confusing route, and somehow we happened to end up in the centre of old Quebec City.

  • Bridege to Quebec City unsplash Drew Coffman
    Quebec City Bridge

There was no turning back as my husband now wanted to stay. He rolled down his windows to smell the “European-style” air, strolled around the Old City under the royal shadow of the Chateau Frontenac, toured the Citadel, and tried to have a conversation with the French locals at an ice cream stand. I got to go to Quebec City, and incidentally had no trouble reading the map to get back on to the highway.

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4. Use This Would be Good for the Children – shamelessly

I wanted to see Ottawa ON. My husband did not. I dug deep into my manipulation bank and suggested that seeing the Parliament Buildings would be a great educational experience for our offspring. He grudgingly agreed but firmly announced that we would NOT be stopping. I agreed, of course.

When we arrived at the hub of our country’s government, I reiterated that the children really did need to go on a tour. My husband, not wanting to be an obstacle to his children’s academic success, unwillingly complied. Ten minutes into the tour, however, we would not have been able to drag him away. We stayed for an extra hour to watch the politicians in the House of Commons and then remained for yet another hour to observe the Question Period.

  • Parliament Buildings pixabay festivio
    Parliament Buildings

By now, my husband was hooked on seeing Ottawa and the family was free to explore the city. We visited not one, but two museums: the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum and the Museum of Canadian Civilization. After a driving tour of important landmarks and a leisurely supper on a restaurant patio, I eventually pointed out that it might be time to leave. My husband agreed, reluctantly. We had been in Ottawa for six hours.

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5. Find destinations that are attractive to the children

In the interest of seeing something new, find activities the children would like to do. I wanted to see Shakespeare at Stratford. My husband and all three kids gave an emphatic, unified negative response. I acquiesced and instead we went to a Toronto Blue Jays Game in Toronto ON.

Rogers Centre Toronto Blue Jays flickr thatllostdog--

I got my revenge by always cheering for the losing team, but secretly loved seeing everyone else enjoying themselves. This technique also worked for a trip to the Redwood Forest CA and for surfing in the Pacific Ocean. Dad hauled the RV trailer on the paper-clip shaped road to Tofino BC for one of our final vacations with our two youngest children.

Redwoods & Surfing

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6. Suggest activities that your husband will not be able to resist

Casually mention that the Pioneer Auto Museum is ahead in Murdo, SD. Read the sign, loudly, about the Anne Murray Centre in Springhill, NS. When in the vicinity of the OMNIMAX Theatre in Science World, Vancouver BC, read the titles of films now playing and ask if any of them sound interesting. The go-to-no-fail guarantee for a desired scenic detour is to find a restaurant that has great seafood, preferably with a lobster buffet. Since this method is so successful, I am already planning to use it for future vacations when we are close to Graceland, the White House, and Paris.

  • Pioneer Car Museum, Murdo, SD
    Murdo SD

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7.  Occasionally, insist on your own choice and hope the family will enjoy it

The children complained long and loud when I insisted on a visit to Butchart Gardens on Vancouver Island BC. Fortunately, they loved it all – the fountains, concerts, and variety of gardens.  We stayed much longer than intended as they begged to see the lights in the dark.

  • Butchart Gardens Walkways pixabay Photoman
    Walking Paths

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8.  Take advantage of unintended delays to see the local sights

Over the years, we have had our share of unexpected delays, usually due to vehicle problems. One year, we had planned be in Ottawa ON by July 1st but instead were stuck in Thunder Bay for Canada Day. We embraced our situation and found plenty of patriotic inspiration in the local fireworks and genuine community spirit. Another time, a belt broke on our vehicle in Portland OR on a weekend. While we waited for the part to be shipped in, we toured  the International Rose Test Garden, rode the gondola across the river, and admired the famous bridges. We had similar stories when we waited for repairs in Jasper, Edmonton, St. John’s, Halifax, and Milton.

  • Canada in Thunder Bay flickr Derek Hatfiled
    Thunder Bay ON

A less pleasant memory is the week we spent in the Walmart parking lot in Red Deer AB waiting for our income tax refund to be deposited into our bank account so that we would have money to continue our holidays. Family tensions soared, but regularly browsing in Walmart helped to ease the friction. The friendly employees were very hospitable, and we found out later that the children created a home theatre for themselves by regularly watching the  TVs in the electronic department.

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9.  Apologize for tactical errors

  • The day I asked to please see the ocean just one more time when we already were very behind schedule.
  • The year my detours took longer than intended and we had to drive 24/7 to get back to a wedding.
  • The time my creative trip planning for the longer scenic route took us through the middle of a dangerous storm, and we had to stop driving. Unfortunately, time was of essence. My husband was not pleased. I’m sorry!

Driving in Storm flickr Jason Trbovich

Sometimes, I should just keep my mouth shut and be thankful for sights already seen.

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10. Finance Creatively

When the amount of road stretches further than the money, find creative ways to pay for the last leg of the trip home. Increase credit card limits, go into overdrafts, and make late payment arrangements.

This usually is not a good idea, and will be sure to enter the Vacation War dialogue the following year. Your husband will likely adamantly declare he will NOT be going into debt for this year’s vacation. In my opinion, he is just looking for an excuse to stay home!

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The children are grown and no longer come with us on vacations, but the script remains the same.

Cliff wants to stay at home or just go away for a few days.

I want to see new sights and be gone for as long as possible.


A FEW YEARS AGO…

MarilynThe annual War of the Vacation was over-shadowed by the pain in my husband’s aching leg. With his hip needing to be replaced for the fifth time, holiday plans were uncertain and unpredictable. The war was more of a discussion dance.

My husband graciously went on a few short trips with me to northern Alberta, the Kootenays, and Banff, which was all he could endure. We arrived home a week too late for Cliff and a week too early for me. When he offhandedly suggested that I could travel by myself for a week, I did not hesitate to accept the offer.

After some creative financing, for which I had plenty of experience, and passport in hand, I was soon on the road heading southwest to Montana. One state led to another – Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and California. I stopped in San Francisco. It was definitely worth the five days of driving for a two-day visit!

  • San Francisco Red Tour Bus flickr Nick Ares
    Double Decker Tour Bus

I took a tour on the top level of a double decker bus and had to duck so that trees would not whack my head. I saw the painted ladies.  After a short boat ride and a precarious stint on an old-fashioned street car, I strolled the busy pier while inhaling the scents and sounds. I did not go on the large tour boat to Alcatraz, however, as I wanted to wait so I could share that experience with Cliff.

I keyboarded the first draft of this article while gazing at the swell of the San Francisco ocean, intermittently wondering which of my schemes would work to get Cliff to  San Francisco on a future trip.

But for that year, the Vacation War was over,

and I had seen the Golden Gate Bridge.

Marilyn at the Golden Gate Bridge


TWO YEARS LATER…

Cliff NewburyCliff got his fifth right hip and was able to travel again, so we decided to go to the Grand Canyon AZ. After my pressured persuasion and the promise of fresh seafood, he unenthusiastically agreed to a return trip home via the longer route up the west coast. His patience was as sketchy as my map reading ability, especially when the extra miles stretched into additional hours and days. His demeanour changed when we finally got to San Francisco CA. He loved everything about it – the harbour and bridges, the architecture, the roads, the wharf with its sea lions and buskers, and especially the seafood.

  • Grand Canyon unsplash Alexandre Godreau
    Grand Canyon

The best part for me was the hoped-for harbour boat ride to Alcatraz,

and getting to share the view of the Golden Gate Bridge with my husband!

  • Boat to Alcatraz pixabay sarangib
    Tour Boat


THIS WEEK…

My husband and I have had our annual Vacation War conversations. After we each said our piece, I read him the script I had written several years ago, and we had indeed repeated the dialogue almost word for word. Cliff was not amused.  He as also added to the list:  accomodation must be cheap like a hovel but look like a mansion.

Arrows, Marilyn & Cliff

My husband says that he would like to go on a road trip to the West Coast, but I think he would be just as happy with a drive to the other side of the city. I would like to travel to Yukon, the Arctic Ocean, and Alaska so that I could remove them from my Never Seen list.

Yukon, Arctic Ocean, and Alaska

So far, none of my strategies of gentle persuasion are working.

Not even the lure of a ferry ride, fishing, cute gift shops, gold panning, or seafood restaurants seems to be having any effect.

Attractions Yukon and Alaska

Cliff claims that the mosquitoes will be as big as dinasours.

Mosquito and Dinasour

I’m not sure how he knows, since he has never been to the Yukon or Alaska.

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I am trying some new strategies to try to lure Cliff to a trip up north:

  • Enticement: I am hoping that my writing, pictures, and publicity will change his mind.
  • Manipulation: We could save money, as I now qualify for seniors discounts.
  • Guilt: Since I am getting older, this might be the last year I will be able to go on such a long trip.

If he bites, I will perhaps be able to ride a train in the Yukon, see dancing Northern Lights, relax by the Arctic ocean, eat baked Alaska, go to a museum, and experience travelling on the Alaska Highway. I have offered to just go by myself, but so far he has not agreed. He probably does not want me to have seafood without him.

In any case, the pysanka egg in Vegreville will have to wait for another year.

World's Largest Pysanka Egg pixabay Shaawsjank61

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Thanks to my children, Stephen, Michael, and Julia (now 30, 28 and 25).

Without you, we would not have had any family vacations,

and I might have been a vacation widow.

Stephen, Michael & Julia


Who do you think should win this year’s vacation War?

Vote in the COMMENT SECTION BELOW


PHOTO CREDITS

Some day, most likely in the very distant future, I will sort through thirty years of photos. Then I will have actual pictures of our vacations for the website. For now, I am grateful to pixabay, unsplash, and flickr for permission to use their photos.

INTRODUCTION

(Golden Gate Bridge CA; Pysanka Egg,Vegreville AB) Golden Gate Bridge in fog; pixabay SuzyLu; Pysanka Egg pixabay Shaawsjank61; Globe in Hands pixabay Geralt

PLACES I HAVE TRAVELLED

(Tulips, Holland; Viking Settlement, L’Anse aux Meadows NL; Sand Dunes OR, Cape Spear NL, Alps, Switzerland; Tower Bridge, London, England; Serengeti Safari, Tanzania; Mombasa Resort, Kenya; Jerusalem Market, Israel)

Tulips in Holland by Louisa Mac CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); L’Anse aux Meadows Historical Park NL by Eric Titcombe CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Sand Dunes OR pixabay Macmaus; Cape Spear NL by Matt Boulton CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped & resized); Alps pixabay violetta; London Tower Bridge pixabay peremon; Serengeti, Tanzania personal; Mombasa, Kenya pixabay benarudo; Jerusalem Old City Market by israeltourism CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped and resized)

PLACES I HAVE NOT SEEN

(Eiffel Tower, Paris; Golden Gate Bridge, CA; Alaska). Eiffel Tower pixabay Kaz; Golden Gate Bridge pixabay CC0 Public Domain; Alaska wolf pixabay Public Domain Pictures

TRIP NAVIGATION

Car Sign pixabay CopyrightFreePictures; Glasses with Map pixabay allysonmiller1969 border

STRATEGIES FOR VACATION BLISS

1. Plan bathroom breaks for stops at Visitor Centres. Welcome Center pixabay SooZ8

2. Get the children on side by creating interest in the above brochures (Terry Fox Memorial, Thunder Bay ON; Reversing Falls, St. John NB; Statue of Liberty, New York NY; Boat Ride, Niagara Falls ON; Royal Ontario Museum,Toronto ON)

Terry Fox Statue, Thunder Bay ON by Brett Vachon CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Reversing Falls, St. John NB by Sonja CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Statue of Liberty pixabay nyc_napa; Maid of the Mist, Niagara Falls pixabay CC0 Public Domain; Royal Ontario Museum by Carsten CC BY 2.0 

3. Get lost with purpose. (Quebec City QC:  Bridge, Old City; Chateau Frontenac; The citadel)

Quebec City Bridge unsplash Drew Coffman ; Old Quebec City pixabay Breaktime; Chateau Frontenac by Prayitno CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); The Citadel by Alonso Inostrosa Psijas CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped & resized)

4. Use This Would be Good for the Children – shamelessly (Ottawa ON:  Parliament Buildings; House of Commons; Canadian Aviation and Space Museum; Museum of Canadian Civilization; Rideau Canal)

Parliament Buildings pixabay Festivio; House of Commons by Scazon CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); CH-113 Labrador chopper in Canadian Aviation and Space Museum by shankar s. CC BY 2.0; Museum of Canadian Civilization by sookie CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Rideau Canal pixabay pcowan5188

5. Find destinations that are attractive to the children (Rogers Centre for Toronto Blue Jays Game,Toronto ON; Redwood Forest CA; Surfing at Tofino BC)

Rogers Centre Toronto Blue Jays by thatlostdog–  CC BY 2.0 (cropped and resized); Redwood Forest personal; Surfing personal

6. Suggest activities that your husband will not be able to resist (Pioneer Auto Museum, Murdo SD; Anne Murray Centre, Springhill NS; OMNIMAX Theatre in Science World, Vancouver BC)

Pioneer Auto Museum, Murdo SD personal; Anne Murray Centre, Used by permission from Anne Murray facebook page; OMNIMAX Theatre, Science World, Vancouver BC by David Stanley CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Lobster pixabay Alina Kuptsova

7.  Occasionally, insist on your own choice and hope the family will enjoy it (Butchart Gardens, Vancouver Island BC)

Butchart Gardens, Vancouver Island, BC pixabay Walkways Photoman; Fountains marybettiniblank; Star Pond pwindsor; Foot Bridge Photoman

8.  Take advantage of unintended delays to see the local sights (Canada Day in Thunder Bay ON; International Rose Test Garden, Portland OR; Walmart in Canada)

Canada Day Fireworks in Thunder Bay ON by Derek Hatfield CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); International Rose Test Garden, Portland OR by Neeta Lind CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Walmart by Mike Kalasnik CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped & resized)

9.  Be prepared for tactical errors

Driving in Rain by Jason Trbovich CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized)

A FEW YEARS AGO…

Marilyn’s Trip to San Francisco (San Francisco CA: Double Decker Tour Bus; Painted Ladies; Street Car; Pier 39; Ocean)

San Francisco:  Double decker tour bus by Nick Ares CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped & resized); Painted Ladies by Jiahui Huang CC BY-SA 2.0 (cropped & resized); Street Car pixabay jingoo10200; Pier 39 pixabay skeeze; Ocean pixabay suyashdixit

TWO YEARS LATER…

Cliff & Marilyn’s Trip (Grand Canyon & San Francisco: Harbour & Bridges; Cityscape; Lombard Street; Busker’s Guitar; Fishermans Wharf)

Grand Canyon: Photo by Alexandre Godreau on Unsplash (cropped & resized)

San Francisco: Harbour and Bridges pixabay jessebridgewater; Cityscape pixabay tpsdave; Lombard Street by Holiday Point CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Busker’s Guitar by Bob Doran CC BY 2.0 (resized and cropped); Fishermans Wharf pixabay sarangib

Boat Tour in San Francisco Harbour (Boat; Alcatraz; Golden Gate Bridge)

Boat to Alcatraz pixabay sarangib; Alcatraz Prison pixabay BKD; Golden Gate Bridge with blue sky pixabay kahsky

THIS WEEK…

Arrows pixabay geralt

Travel Destination Maps (Yukon; Arctic Ocean; Alaska/North America)

Yukon map by CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Arctic Ocean by Dan Markeye CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Alaska/North America map by CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized)

Insects (Mosquito & Dinasour)

Mosquito and Dinosaur pixabay OpenClipart-Vectors

Yukon & Alaska Destinations

(Alaska Ferry; Fishing Salmon; Simply Salmon Gift Shop; Gold Panning; Crab Shack)

Alaska Ferry pixabay skeeze; Fishing Salmon pixabay LoveToTakePhotos; Simply Salmon by Public Domain; Gold Panning by CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized); Crab Shack by CC BY 2.0 (cropped & resized)

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14 Comments

  1. Marlene Rohr Marlene Rohr

    Marilyn, your article reminded me of similar conflicts we have had when it comes to vacation planning. I am the planner who sometimes plans trips two years in advance. ( Recent trip to France), while my husband loves to be spontaneous and do “last minute” trips when the timing works out for us to get away. I have struggled with compromising when our styles are so opposite. Thankfully, when we took our first cruise about 12 years ago, we both discovered that this was going to be the way we both like to travel and have taken many cruises since then. However, since I also wanted to go to Europe and he didn’t, I have found a way of doing this with a group of friends instead of with my husband, because he was adamant about not traveling beyond North America. I am thankful for travel opportunities and that we have found a way to travel that works for both of us.

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      Interesting how you have found ways to work around the ‘discussions’ so that you can both travel together. We both did love the cruise as well and I hope we can go again some day: we’ll see how life goes. However, I may have to do Europe without my husband as well, although I know he would love it if we could figure out the logistics. Gary doesn’t know what he is missing! Thank you so much for your comments!

  2. Lisa Fisher Lisa Fisher

    Well, I think you should drive to Alaska because you’d have to go through Grande Prairie so you could stop and see our family!

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      I thought this was a great idea as well, and will post the process in this week’s article.

      Cliff had actually agreed to drive the Alaska Highway, but when we checked the cruise deals, he decided that if he had to do something different, this was his preference. He wants a very relaxing vacation, and feared that the unknown factors of accommodation, road conditions, & possible breakdowns would be more stressful than relaxing on a cruise deck. Now, with the forest fires and closed roads on our intended possible return trip through Prince George, the cruise is a definitely a better choice.

      We’ve also had a lot of set-backs this year: foundation cracks, hot water tank floods, painting issues, and unpacking delays. Consequently, we cannot be gone for too long. Maybe I will get a four-week road trip next year.

  3. Janice winsor Janice winsor

    Gee you make it difficult choosing between the two of you. It’s just as hard trying to come up with a common denominator vacation destination with your list of likes and dislikes haha.
    My suggestion is to try the cruise I want to do sometime. Cruise from Montreal to New York then back. This way you get to experience New York and Cliff gets to eat sea food.
    Just a suggestion. Hope it helps with decision. 😄☀️🌸

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      Janice – you are so right that it is difficult to make decisions. The Montreal/New York sounds great. We did actually reach a compromise – sort of. We are going to take a one-week cruise to Alaska. We think we are both happy but time will tell. It is our first cruise ever, so I am looking forward to it. Just booked it today. Thanks for the vote!

  4. Lorrainne Nina Teeple Lorrainne Nina Teeple

    Beautiful read and I would vote on a cruise Alaska but at a time when the dolphins and whales are out.

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      Thank you, Lorraine! Hmm – is that a vote for both Cliff & myself? We actually are considering a cruise – but that would mean a one-week vacation. We’ll see.

  5. I think a cruise to Alaska would be thrilling for both of you. You could board in Vancouver, and several cruise lines provide opportunities to take excursions while stopped at various ports. (They usually are an extra cost though). As the cruise ship lines begin to compete with each other, some of them may include excursions:)

    Food is plentiful and the entertainment on the ships never stops.

    The costs can be reasonable.

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      I have wondered about that as well. I actually was looking at websites for cruises last night and comparing it with the cost of driving and coming back with the car ferry. The costs might be comparable. Thank you for the impetus to look at this more closely!

  6. Angelica Garcia Angelica Garcia

    I think that Marilyn will find the perfect way to persue Cliff to enjoy at least a week of vacation together.

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      I hope so! We are still negotiating!

  7. Cliff Cliff

    Michael is 28 years old not 27. You need to Learn to track time better or at least birthdays.

    • Marilyn Newbury Marilyn Newbury

      Lol – thanks Cliff!

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